Billionaire Expense Claims Compared
More evidence based blogging to discover how much do the respective Tory and Labour non-dom peers claim off the taxpayers on an average day on the red benches?
A Guido co-conspirator in the comments points out that between 2001 -2008 Lord Ashcroft attended parliament 285 times at a total cost to the taxpayer of £0.00 in expenses, with an average cost of £0.00.
During the same period Lord Swarj Paul attended parliament 1047 times at a cost to the taxpayer of £281,263 in expenses. The average cost per visit was £268.64 and in 2008/9 this jumped to £405.58 per visit.
While Lord Ashcroft was setting up the extremely successful Crimestoppers organisation, Lord Paul was raiding the pension funds of hardworking British steel workers.
Which one is more patriotic?
Source : here.
And the BBC is dissolving in front of our very eyes
£281 was just for Lord Paul’s lunch.
this seems to have touched a very raw nerve guido
i wonder why?
Guido is of course tendering for an Ashcroft blog subsidy. Have you seen the wonga he has given bloggers?
Margaux doesn’t grow on trees you know.
It grows on vines ??
Subsidies Guido?
You are starting to sound like a fucking communist.
my mistake
you aren’t touchy about this at all
Set up a blogger’s union and apply for the Modernisation Fund from Liebore. They may of course want to it back eventually but you get to keep the OBE I believe.
The only chance you’ll have to vote Herman Van Rompuy:
http://www.westbournemouthukip.com/local/ukiplocal.shtml
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Err, Ashcroft subsidies are called investments.
I thought investments were Liebour cuts?
Investments is spending on chavs.
Yes Guido, Ashcroft seems to have trouble with the definition of words too.
Ever thought of buying a dictionary?
Now that would be an investment.
anon shouldn’t you have your fist up someone in the Downing Street bunker.
Missed by a mile.
Try again.
Well said, BQ. Chavs is bang on.
Hello, anon!
Goodbye tatwatch.
Irony
Labour accusing William Hague about “due diligence” over Lord Ashcroft whilst doing nothing about Fred Goodwin’s bonus or ensuring that the money we bailed them out with was used to lend to struggling UK businesses instead of just shoring themselves up…oh and sorting out this years bonuses.
Rubbish, he doesn’t get out his knife and fork for less than a grand.
Hurrah!
Nick Hogan update
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2010/03/nick-hogan-update.html
when will this thieving scoundrel Lord Paul admit he is a non dom ???
come on you Liebore Lord hoon do the decent thing and come clean
Why bother buying poster sites when you have your own propaganda media machine called the BBC – full of crooked and crap journalists who do Mandelson’s bidding;
Kirsty Wark – Newsnight
BBC Breakfast – Sian Williams
Today programme – the two old has been’s,what were their names?
World at One – Martha Kearney
and the list goes on and on,rather like their repeats of crap shows.
The BBC – welcome to The Stasi.
You forgot the One Show with Mr Tumble
Do you mean ‘Slight Return’ when he is in Haiti
The 5 BBC priorities, apparently:
1. The best journalism in the world
2. Inspiring knowledge, music and culture
3. Ambitious UK drama and comedy
4. Outstanding children’s content
5. Events that bring communities and the nation together
6. Ramming Campbell’s cock down the throat of the nation and sending people to jail if they decline to pay for it.
Whereabouts on the list is public service broadcasting?
Kirsty Walk – hated by so many people within broadcasting – awful journalist.
And she ALWAYS sounds pissed.
Mr Cameron stressed that he supported the BBC
He said: “The BBC is an important national institution. I want to see it prosper and succeed and be a fantastic cultural asset.”
He added that he was a “supporter of the licence fee”
“I want to see it prosper and succeed (by kicking out all the commie tossers) and be a fantastic cultural asset.”
Quelle surprise.
Loves the NHS to bits; continually ruminates on the superiority of the foreign faiths; intends to park his kids in splendid state schools; probably considering wearing a propeller beanie to power his i-Pod in an eco-friendly fashion; disdains choosing the best, er, person for the job when there are “positively”-discriminatory quotas to impose on his feebly-protesting underlings; bleeds for all those poor countries with nukes and ICBM’s that need even more gifts of our borrowed money; phoney cast-iron guarantees; and on and on and on ad infinitum.
One of these days it may just dawn that his crossing the floor of the House of Ill Repute would be a consummation devoutly to be wished both for him and the party he shanghaied.
Fuck me Anon you talk shit. Ashcroft does NOT avoid tax he pays tax on earnings made in UK as a non dom he does not pay tax on earnings made outside UK. This is in common use by many and I might add by several Labour supporters yet you choose to single out Ashcroft this equals gross hypocracy. Ashcroft is perfectly in the right to do this and is NOT breaking the law. You like so many NuLabour supporters believe the lies and spin constantly used by NuLabour – get your head out of Mandy’s arse and start to smell the coffee. Here endeth the lesson you thick dozy twat.
Humphrys and Smug-McNaughtie, the terrible twins. The latter is particularly partisan when it comes to matters NuLiebour.
Ah, I see, Guido. You are arguing that because Lord Ashcroft-of-Liars does not claim expenses therefore it is okay for him to evade tax.
Hmm….
anon – get your facts correct.
Ashcroft avoids tax – not evades. One is legal, the other is not.
But you do not deny Aschcroft is a fucking liar.
Which means I win.
You avoid tax everytime you buy one get one free at Tescos. Only pay the VAT once, see.
Arrest EVERYONE
Less BBC. Sounds good
And why has there ever been an Asian Network. There is no ‘indigenous network’?
Nick Robinsons blog next please?
I avoid tax by not drinking special brew.
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Humpty and Numpty do you mean?
Whats happened to Baroness Uddin BTW?
The BBC has declared war on anyone and everyone who threatens the Labour Party’s Campaign for a One Party State.
After 7.39 minutes, Michael Gove ‘exposes’ Brown Broadcating Corp bias:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00r9xx2/Newsnight_01_03_2010/
Dave use Gove at every opportunity. He’s more than a match for Manglesbums.
I always think he looks a bit like the Mekon in glasses, though.
Gove is a brilliant performer. I remember Sky News used to run a political programme where he would be up against Polly Toynbee and he ran rings around her (never losing his cool and always charming). She was often left practically foaming at the mouth with anger and frustration because she couldn’t lay a glove on him.
And just watch the grotty Walk try to stop Gove even asking the “BBC Bias” question.
So sinister – bugger off back to Scotland (yet another one who got past the border controls at Hadrian’s Wall) – you ugly old sow.
Down ‘ere we always say, ‘Don’t expect a woman with a squint to see things straight.’
You some sort of dwarf?
A real pleasure to watch it again. I had to stop swearing at the tv when I heard Michael standing up to that woman. It should be compulsory viewing for all at Conservative HQ.
At long last a Conservative has the nous to respond properly to the labour party employees at the bbc. It is what the people want to see and hear!!!
Guido IBM ad needs sorting. Every refresh is driving me mad.
er – I see – cut out anything that prevents the ads eh?
Firefox with Ad-Block Pro.
This will last as long as my same advice lasted – until his office boys see it and vanish this post.
My heart bleeds.
I say cut the BBC down to a couple of unbiased wildlife film units, a few Outside Broadcast units and let them cover the news and sport without the political bull.
If the government doesn’t have a mouthpiece, we won’t have to listen to its lies and deceit.
BBC. Give me the facts and let me make the judgement.
“Unbiased wildlife film units”? Pah!
When did they last do a programme on Blue Ants or Blue Pandas, for example?
Although I do have to admit the Blue Planet series did strike a chord…
British Broadcasting for British workers!!
Even wildlife programmes on the Beeb come replete with Global Warming bollocks. Everything they do is slanted and biased.
But no Scottish journos need apply.
Tell Sid to watch out for his priority shares application pack which will be in the post fairly soon. Then follow the instructions to own a part of the BBC starting with its global operations and with further share issues to follow.
Giving the BBC back to the people who funded it!
FFS, their ‘wildlife’ & ‘countryside’ programmes, are some of the most overtly biased and misleading programmes they produce ! Utter nulab propspeak through and through. It was us folks out in cow-country, who started the whole boycott the licence fee cocept.
I think there is a diference between the types of wildlie presenters.You have the anoraks like the bloke who has taken over from Bill Oddie, he is obsessed with wildlife.Looks a bit like Jools Holland, his name is Chris Packham.You also have Kate Humble and Ben Fogle also Simon King who does the Autumnwatch/Springwatch stuff.They are brilliant.Even the Scottish bloke who appears with them is just a wildlife nut.In fact they are all a bit eccentric that is why I like them. They live in the country and love animals.Then you have the other type,young presenters who are just given a slot on a programme about animals who couldn’t really give a damn,they are just on the telly. It’s the latter who have obviously been given scripts by Aljabeeba who spout the claptrap.
Fucking hell no wonder the socialist scum Mandelson is having a go at Ashcroft, he thinks his Crimestoppers will put an end to Labour Sleeze
After further reporters’ questions about his knowledge of Lord Ashcroft’s tax status, Mr Cameron added: “I admire people who try to flog a dead horse. But the horse is dead and should no longer be flogged.”
He continued: “The questions people have been asking have now been answered. I know it’s disappointing for some that a major plank of the Labour campaign platform has disappeared and is no longer there for them, but that’s life.”
The Tories need to abandon their IHT proposals or make them crystal clear.
I am sick of hearing about 3000 wealthiest estates only benefitting bollocks.
With Fiscal Drag the Chumps in Labour will include millions of extra tax drones each passing year.
IHT is a 40% tax on already taxed hard work by the hardest working in the community by income tax , investment tax on non-earned income, Capital Gains Tax where appropriate, IPT, Taxes by way of VAT on the investment advice .
So the State wants nearly half of your hard won savings because it is fair?
You have no right to pass the full amount on to your children. Labour want a ‘Death Tax’ just in case you lose your money, and Trusts have been fucked by the imposition from April of a 50% special band tax on ALL income derived from Trusts.
This is latent Communism and it sucks. Don’t be surprised by the huge numbers of productive Brits now leaving fast. Which is exactly what these Marxists actually have planned all along.
It’s good that the BBC is dissolving.
Hopefully Brown will too.
Just like the arseholes who tried to smear Dannatt
Nasty image there… thanks.
Smear, arsholes, I’m in heaven!
Time for the Brown £50K slush fund to be brought out in to the open.
Direct accusations must be made.
Didn’t Eric Pickles report it to the standards commissioner for investigation…?
I wonder what’s come of that?!
yoo-hoo, it’s over here!
Heh – thought as much…
Time to get out the lawnmower, me thinks.
Time for the scythes and pitchforks.
down with labour scum!
So, his ‘Lordship’ claims expenses from the Taxpayer and then donates to the Labour Party ??????
Oh, that’ll be OK then.
Mandleson on Sky is looking increasingly rediculous and as usual Sky paying lip service.
Thats not too hard for him, he is increasingly ridiculous, his worlds falling in around him. I think even the chavs can recognise that a man that lives in a £2.5m house and jets around the world with dodgy russians, probably hasn’t got much in common with the ‘working class’..the man’s a total gibbering dodgy twat.
Shows his interterlect when it`s not going all swimmingly goes to pieces my 11 yr old could out argue that twat easy
Thieving swine!
MPs’ attend the House 139 day per year and paid £65,000PA = £467 Per Day so whats new ?????
They’ve been elected.
MP’s have constituency work and other duties that extend beyond that many days if they are serious about it.
Lords get paid by the day to include such other duties. Supposedly.
It is well documented though that certain Lords “pop in” to be headcounted for expenses and, er, pop out again a few minutes later.
Presumably to retire a few miles away in the broom cupboard of one of their other businesses and drop off with a glass of port until the night porter arrives to turf them out again and point them in the direction of their palatial non-home.
One thing for sure.Labours friend Nick Robinson will not mention my expenses but question wht Lord A didnt take any,Its great to know who your friends are.
Diverting funds from the nation so it can be donated to the Labour party is standard practice at Westminster isn’t it ?
Lord P*aul is more patriotic. Friend of Labour = friend of ours
We have been pursuing Ashcroft for years, so require some sort of result against him and the nasty Tories who will slash everything if we don’t manage to stop them
aren’t we allowed to mention lord paul then?
Especially not cheap child labour and pension funds
Lord Paul has spoken in 0 debates in the last year — below average amongst Lords.
Has received answers to 0 written questions in the last year — average amongst Lords.
Has voted in 25% of votes in parliament with this affiliation — average amongst Lords. (From Public Whip)
Lord Ashcroft has spoken in 0 debates in the last year — below average amongst Lords.
Has received answers to 28 written questions in the last year — well above average amongst Lords.
Has voted in 16% of votes in parliament with this affiliation — below average amongst Lords.
Why no speeches? And why are so many of Ashcroft’s about non-UK issues?
If you let more ordinary bods sit in the Lords they’d hopefully at least have the patriotism to make a speech.
So what?
And why on earth is receiveng answers to 0 written questions in the last year ‘average amongst Lords’?
Have you not heard of “0% growth” as announced by the devil himself?
Not claiming expenses is unpatriotic.
British pies for bulimic British porkers !
I’ve always been bullimic – Last night I went out and had 24 pints and tripple helpings of Chicken Vindaloo, had to throw it up in a shop doorway on the way home. It’s a terrible thing to have, most of the people up north suffer from it..
So why doesn’t the “mainstream” press do this sort of investigation?
Hollow laugh.
They’re all nancy boys
It’s all within the rules.
“So why doesn’t the “mainstream” press do this sort of investigation?”
What you mean socialist NUJ members investigating other soialist union supporters??
Ah, but Ashcroft is suspected by Labour of being effective. As Mandelson outlined that is the key difference. Labour – tough on success, tough on the causes of success.
Anyone at the BBC ask Mandy about his dodgy mortgage yet?
TBH even I would think twice about asking Mandsy about his dodgy mortgage, or losing his job – twice was it?
he’s a nobody a nothing figure and of no importance whatsoever
no-one would even know who ashcroft was unless this nondom thingy had suddenly appeared today
why is everyone so obsessed with this ashcroft johnnie chap?
it’s not as if he has any real power or say in the conservative party
‘Why is everyone so obsessed with this Ashcroft johnie chap?’
It is only MSM, not met one serf ‘obsessed’, TV news cycle agenda all on message
the NUJ are pushing the members hard, we’ve been told Labour need to narrow the gap.
That’s racialist, I’m telling Sir Ian Blairs
Shatit you slag! Get ya clothes on and make me a cup of tea!
Lord Ashcroft is estimated to have saved more than £127m in British tax since he became a member of the House of Lords, according to Liberal Democrat research.
Lord Ashcroft’s annual tax saving is conservatively estimated to be £12.76m and he has been a member of the House of Lords for a decade.
Commenting, Liberal Democrat Shadow Home Secretary, Chris Huhne said:
“Anyone who wants to pass laws in this country should pay this country’s full taxes and not hide behind the special offshore status of non-doms.
“Non-doms have to tell the taxman that their first allegiance is to another country. No-one should be a British lawmaker whose first allegiance is not to Britain.
“On even the most conservative estimates, Lord Ashcroft has avoided vast amounts of British tax by deploying the non-dom tax dodge. If he challenges our estimate of how much tax he has dodged, then there is a simple solution: publish the figure.”
Hey Martin, do you know how much tax he’s paid to the countries where he actually made his money?
Presumably that includes Labour and Lib Dem non-doms as well does it?
The Conservative’s appointed Lord Paul
The law allows a non-dom to be a member of the House of Lords. It’s not as if I just steamrolled myself into it. Don’t forget that I was appointed by the Conservative Party, not Labour. They are spreading this canard that I was appointed by the Labour Party.”
According to the wikipedia definition of philanthropy, Aschroft sounds like a good guy to me.
But ofcourse he can afford to be philanthropic, he doesn’t pay his taxes!
I suppose labour supporting scum like you are happy with Lord paul using cheap child labour. Also if he earns the money abroad and pays taxes abroad why should he pay uk tax as well?
If that’s how strongly Huhne feels about this sort of thing, it makes you wonder why his election campaign for leadership of the Limp Dems was bankrolled by a non-dom…
hey martin – be cairfull saying ‘u cant pars lors wivout payin tax’, coz we the laybur suportin lot wudnt B aybl to partisipayt in lawz n stuff wot wiv the muhnee Brown givz uz 4 doin nuffin but vowt 4 laybur.
& wee pay no tax coz thatz 4 stuwpid wurkerz. stupid wurkuz R wankaz. taxfree muhnee iz free.
Presumably then, the Lib Dems will be opposing all legislation that originates from the EU? No, thought not.
FFS, Martin, shut up! The last bloody thing Cherie and I need is people looking into tax avoidance. Christ on a fucking bike. I gave you slobs three election wins, so you fucking owe me.
And who else has employed the non-dom tax dodge? I take it you are against all non-dom Lords as contributors to political parties? Do tell?
I think the Lib Dems are not best placed to lecture anyone.After all their party funding did include a large sum which was the proceeds of crime.
Please explain how these ‘conservative’ estimates were arrived at? Or how anyone can ‘estimate’ what ‘vast’ amounts of tax have been avoided if they don’t know what Ashcroft’s earnings were during the period in question?
There is a major difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. Avoidance is legal and many accountants help clients to minimise tax bills. Ashcroft is no different. What precisely is dodgy about that.
I suggest Day,that you come up with some better rationale than this. PS Don’t rely on the Lib Dems for research,they are worse at it than New Labour.
Look I am just writing what I’ve been told by Mr Whelan, he has promised me my own Nokia which will be personally “given” at me by our beloved leader
Day ,you have misunderstood our instructions .
We pay you to irritate the tories on the blog but you stimulate only amused contempt for yourself and total derision for for our leader .
You are fired. Don’t come to the office for your wages–we’re skint
Forget how much tax someone legitimately doesn’t pay. I legitimately do not pay some £10 billion a year in tax (not least because it is not due). Think instead about how much tax a person or entity does pay.
And how much tax Liebore’s great unwashed do not pay and or want back in benefits regardless. And how much tax Liebore’s grandees would rather not pay despite pointing the finger at everyone else. And how much in the way of expenses and wages they require in order to favour us with their presence in public office.
Any person is entitled to legally arrange their affairs in order to pay the least amount of tax. This does not always have to be via the Liebore favoured route of not bothering to work at all and instead being an obedient client of the State.
Obviously unless it’s cash in hand mate. Plus I’ve got some dodgy CD’s going to car boot at the weekend. Nuff said?
Sounds like a man who knows how to manage money.
No doubt Toenails and Marr will be asking the BIG question of the day “So Lord Ashcroft….”
Err that’s Toenails and Further, please use their proper names Sir!
That shit,Lord Ashcroft will lose the General Election for David Cameron’s Conservatives
Thank you Lord Ashcroft
Mr. Paul clarified that his contributions were made by the Caparo Group rather than by him personally, and that he pays the bulk of his taxes in Britain.
“This law was not made for me or Lord Ashcroft. It’s been going on for the last couple of hundred years. The day they change it I will have to abide by the new laws. Until then it gives me the option,” he told BBC radio.
“The law allows a non-dom to be a member of the House of Lords. It’s not as if I just steamrolled myself into it. Don’t forget that I was appointed by the Conservative Party, not Labour. They are spreading this canard that I was appointed by the Labour Party.”
tHANKS FOR TAKING THE HEAT OFF ME AND THE CHEAP CHILD LABOUR ISSUE MARTIN
Can we have our pensions back? We did pay in for them.
Perhaps we can have our billions back from the w/bankers too. I heard my local council were making loads of redundancies while our brave banking/hedgers boys all keep their jobs.
Ashcrofts money will win it in the marginals for the Tories…….no matter how much mendacity and hypocrisy I barf up across the media with the help of the Brown Bullshitting Corporation…….damn it.
So, what about Lord Paul’s money? Did it not come from the pension fund at Caparo? So, basically, he pays tax on money he stole from his workers – very champagne socialist.
and a contributor to the Conservatives -blows away your argument yesterday that he was only donating to Gordon out of love and not to gain any influence.
Your desperate argument is wearing thin.
“The law allows a non-dom to be a member of the House of Lords. It’s not as if I just steamrolled myself into it. Don’t forget that I was appointed by the Conservative Party, not Labour. They are spreading this canard that I was appointed by the Labour Party.”
Complete red herring. He was recommended for a peerage by the Labour Party and just happened to take his seat when John Major was PM. Shirley Williams received a life peerage in 1993 and as far as I am aware, the Lib Dems weren’t in power at that time.
Maybe you can answer the question that has been bugging me (and others, too): how did Lord Paul become a Privy Councillor?
Excellent fightback Guido. Interesting thought, Does Mandleson claim expenses for attending the Lords, on top of his Ministerial salary?
WHY is no front bench Tory coming out and kicking Mandleson or the Labour Party Lies?
WHY has no letter questioning the appointment of Mandleson, with his dodgy past, been sent to the Appointments Commission.
But the Conservative’s appointed Lord Paul
David Cameron is in the shit now
The law allows a non-dom to be a member of the House of Lords. It’s not as if I just steamrolled myself into it. Don’t forget that I was appointed by the Conservative Party, not Labour. They are spreading this canard that I was appointed by the Labour Party.”
So are you’re saying Lord Appalling didn’t donate all that money to Labour and claim all those expenses, you Nokia ducking twat?
The conservative’s WHAT appointed Lord not-Ringo-john-or-george?
But as Clarence says above, my dear Labour stooge:
“A Complete red herring. He was recommended for a peerage by the Labour Party and just happened to take his seat when John Major was PM. Shirley Williams received a life peerage in 1993 and as far as I am aware, the Lib Dems weren’t in power at that time.”
“Maybe you can answer the question that has been bugging me (and others, too): how did Lord Paul become a Privy Councillor?”
Who appointed him to that post???
Or was that the naughty ickle tories too????
FFS…..
Aschroft breaks his word to get a peerage and avoids tens of millions in tax, and you start looking at expenses? Why don’t you just suck Cameron off here and now?
As Michael Gove said:
“You certainly do not emerge strengthened as an opponent of cronyism by expending what credibility you have acting as the paid lobbyist for your own title-hungry Treasurer. What was Mr Hague doing calling the Prime Minister at the Lisbon summit to intercede for Mr Ashcroft ’s peerage? How credible is your attack on “three jets” Blair when you’re string-pulling for “three countries” Ashcroft ? And how credible is your claim to speak for Middle Britain when your party thinks it’s amusing to joke about its reliance on Belize? Never mind Neil Hamilton, when it comes to making light of Parliament’s dignity, Michael Ashcroft takes the biscuit.”
“But no, the Tories, fatally, foolishly, put all their eggs in the Belize basket. They secured the short-term comfort of Mr Ashcroft ’s tax-sheltered millions, but have paid the price in credibility forgone. How can they now effectively serve the purpose an Opposition should, as the independent, patriotic, scourge of an influence-peddling administration? To paraphrase Rudyard Kipling, once you start taking the danegeld, you never get rid of the stain.”
PLEASE DONT MENTION CHEAP CHILD LABOUR OR PENSION FUNDS.
“Aschroft breaks his word to get a peerage and avoids tens of millions in tax, and you start looking at expenses? Why don’t you just suck Cameron off here and now?”
Ashcroft undertook to pay UK tax on his UK income. As there have been no reports of HMRC starting proceedings against him for unpaid tax, we can assume that he has done.
Ashcroft has kept his word. If you say different, prove it.
If you could just extract Ashcroft’s cock from your mouth for one moment, Engineer: you claimed that you were not a Tory troll.
Clearly you are.
You are a liar and Aschroft is a liar.
Birds of a feather.
Game over.
ashcroft is a liar in what way please? Prove your point.
I presume you live on the dark side of the moon.
We are going over old ground here you dimwit.
Ashcroft was given a peerage in exchange for becoming a permanent resident and therefore being obliged to pay full tax on all his earnings, not just UK earnings.
He took the peerage but did not and still has not honoured his side of the bargain.
That means Ashcroft is a liar.
Surely even a dim tory troll like you can understand that logical sequence of factual events?
Wrong. Ashcroft is obliged to pay UK tax on UK earnings (and does, so far as we know), but as a non-dom is entitled to pay overseas tax on overseas earnings.
Do try and keep up.
Shatit you nonce!
Bring me the SP sunny. You’ve got form sunshine. Put up or shut up.
Fuck off TaT.
And youre’ a fucking stooge.
He undertook to be a “permanent resident”. In 2000, that meant being domiciled in the UK for tax purposes. He failed in this undertaking, and made Hague into a liar. As a non-dom, he’s no doubt paid some UK income tax, but that’s not the point.
Preumably not a Civil Servant in HMRC? Check your facts first.
As far as the UK Inland Revenue is concerned, along with the Revenues of many other countries, you are considered to resident for tax purposes of you’re in the country for 183 days or more per tax year. Days of arrival and departure are ignored. Additionally, if you go and work abroad for more than one year, you must not be back in the UK for more than 91 days, on average, in any 365 day period, for the duration of your time abroad.
Quite possible to be out of the country a lot and still be resident.
Don’t you understand what permanent means?
Buy a dictionary, read the definition and then come and apologise for being such a fuckwit.
Ashcroft is a liar. He must be stripped of his peerage for failing to honour the agreement upon which his peeraged was bestowed.
In 2008 they changed the definition of “permanent resident.” in 2000, when the commitment was made “permanent resident” precluded non-dom status.
“Resident” and “domiciled” mean different things for tax purposes.
Do try and keep up.
I can recommend Lord Ashcroft’s “Victoria Cross Heroes” – an excellent read that in the telling brings back brilliant, loyal and incredibly brave gambles and sacrifices that are the making of our British forces.
Reluctantly I must draw comparison with the lesser man who writes badly of courage but has none, (although his extremely brave priestly father may well have been the bravest man in the world and undoubtedly his son takes after him – don’t you know?) and who has led our troops into harms way without the necessary resources.
The shame of it all.
‘……and who has led our troops into harms way without the necessary resources.’
Replace the work ‘led’ with the word ‘sent’
That hoon Brown couldnt lead a fucking poodle on a lead around the garden.
My, husband, my weirdo.
My Dearest, My Darling, Alistair!
Now we have Biased Broadcasting Corpse doing a “hammer Ashcroft” on Radio 2…and self-promoting their “brilliant” doc on the miners strike.
Save money, shut the bunch of reds down.
The only thing that will do it is people power. Politicians of whatever hue just don’t have the balls.
Meanwhile on 5 liars. NUJ rep saying the Government doing the dirty work for the Tories who would of course make swingeing cuts to the BBC if they were voted in. Unbeliebvable!
BBC: It’s all Thatcher’s fault.
It’s where the rot started for sure.
Eh ?? what have we been doing for THIRTEEN years ??
All I sez is, it had to start sometime.
Lord Paul was helping me save the world.
Once again the Daily Mash provide much more worthwhile news than the BBC
“Julian Cook, an economist at Madeley-Finnegan, said: “Lord Ashcroft is one of around 60 million people in Britain who want to pay less tax.
“He does this by hiring an accountant who reduces his tax bill by as much as is legally possible, sends him an invoice and then everyone goes about their day. As you can see it’s all incredibly evil.”
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/angry-taxpayers-demand-tutorial-from-lord-ashcroft-201003022518/
As opposed to contacting ones accountant and asking them to ensure you pay more taxes so that the Labour Government can donate it to the unions???
What kind of bile ridden fuckwit are you??
Oopps last word should hace read BBC
hace should read have – hey Guido can I have my own fucking typo thread please
Dont worry I usually type as bad as Gordon Brown writes to the familys of dead soldiers… perhaps some sort of editing function is order?
Then again, with editing people will be going backl and chaging their posts, thus making the replies look like utter bollocks and terribly confusing.
For my money, both houses need a bloody good clear out.
While we are at it, whats all this about removing the right to protest at such as Canary Wharf? AND being moved on by some jobsworth Security Guard?
Rentacop obviously didn’t like Man About the House.
Free tutorial: Hire a fucking accountant. works for me. Why pay McDoom one penny more than I have to? Not as if he does anything useful with my money.
I’m on duty tonight. It will be a short drive, I’m told. We’ll just have to go around the corner …
Lord Ashcroft amuses staff at Conservative Campaign HQ with his impression of Blofeld. A toy white cat has even been provided as a prop.”
I would never use my family as props.
Sorry, I only just saw LordMandy claiming Ashcroft was bringing the Lords into disrepute – has anyone contacted the OED yet with a new suggested definition of irony?
Being sacked twice from Tony’s government doesn’t count as being disreputable.
Mandy gets stuffed full of my irony at every opportunity.
are you Brazilian perchance?
Watched Daily Politics…main item sterling crisis….it truly was amazing to hear John McFall firstly blame the situation of the banking crisis and after his argument was destroyed by Andrew McNeil feebly admitting that interest rates would probably have to rise and that the deficit needs perhaps paying down sooner rather than later but he’s has every confidence in Gordon(LOL)
Thank God we’ve that global economic genius Gordon Brown in charge of the UK economy(sorry what ? oh I see it’s because we’ve got that towering intellect Gordon Brown in charge that we’ve got the problem in the first place ?)
Read Ken Clark’s article in the Mail
Does this ring a bell?
Names and dates are interchangeable
Zimbabwe, formerly known as Rhodesia and once one of the richest countries in Africa, is undergoing a complete political and economic meltdown under the misrule of Robert Mugabe. He has clung onto power despite losing the election in March, 2008, thus worsening the political and economic crises. Despite the government “outlawing inflation” (which is about as effective as outlawing the tides from rising), prices soared out of control. Inflation reached an estimated 231 million percent per year in 2008, the highest ever in history. Rather than attempting to solve the problem the government just kept printing money. There was a severe shortage of everything, except freshly printed bills. The Zimbabwe Dollar has undergone three major revaluations. Inflation was stopped however until the government allowed the use of other currencies in early 2009. The Zimbabwe Dollar virtually stopped circulating as the national currency as it was no longer accepted by its citizens. It has been replaced by a mixture of South African Rands. Botswana Pulas and United States Dollars. Though the currencies used were foreign, they provided a stable medium of exchange. Goods again became available in the market place and prices stabilized.
ASHCROFT=BOB MAXWELL
——–TAX=PENSIONS——
this has made me decide NOT to VOTE tory
i will be a non-voter this election
I’m not sure you display the mental capacity to be able to vote but I understand the Liebore party are recruiting unpaid staff and there is no minimum intellectual requirement.
More from Rawnsley in toaday’s Mail, this time about Sarah Brown:
“In fresh claims from journalist Andrew Rawnsley’s new book, Downing Street officials were said to regard Mrs Brown, a former public relations executive, as the Prime Minister’s ‘best and chief propagandist’.
One member of the Prime Minister’s inner circle is even said to refer to Mrs Brown as ‘Magda Goebbels’ – a reference to the wife of the infamous Nazi propaganda chief, who joined her husband in crafting strategies to sell Hitler to the German masses in the 1930s……….”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254764/How-Mrs-Brown-PMs-No1-spin-doctor-Downing-Street-aide-dubbed-Mrs-Goebbels-claims-controversial-book.html#ixzz0h1RTgtSA
That’s blown Gay Gordon’s “best asset” out of the water!
He is my hero, my rock of inspiration, the man I love.
When we part company forever in the next few weeks, it will be one of the saddest days of my life, comparable to that gloomy day in August 2000, when we were joined in matrimony.
We have both had wonderfully happy lives – then we met.
You vill luv my Gordo. You vill. You vill. You vill.
Or else!
It seems that the fragrant Sarah Brown was in league with Damien McBride….
‘The book also claims Mrs Brown formed a ‘strong, and to some at No 10 surprising, alliance’, with two of the Prime Minister’s most notorious spin doctors, Damian McBride and Charlie Whelan.
Mr McBride was nicknamed ‘Damian McPoison’ in Westminster for his devastating briefings against Mr Brown’s political enemies, including Tony Blair. He was forced to quit after it emerged he had plotted to spread untrue smears about senior Tories.
But before the scandal, Mrs Brown is said to have been so impressed with his work that as a ‘reward’ she invited him to throw a private lunch at the Prime Minister’s country retreat Chequers, which he did.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254764/How-Mrs-Brown-PMs-No1-spin-doctor-Downing-Street-aide-dubbed-Mrs-Goebbels-claims-controversial-book.html#ixzz0h1SNcKtk
I always thought there was something deeply unpleasant and palpably fake about Sarah Brown.
But I’m just a simple, down-to-earth little housewife, unlike that lazy cow Samantha Cameron.
Will that do, Damien?
I can give my friend Sarah a glowing character reference.
I’ve met Sarah Brown. She’s a nasty, scheming piece of work. Perhaps that’s why she was picked for the role?
Looking at the stout, matronly Sarah Bruin its clear to see that Gordon wasn’t looking for a wife, he was looking for a mother.
I do hope Mr Rawnsley doesn’t say anything untoward in his TV programme about us next week
Don’t you like my twitting ‘My husband, my weirdo’ ????
‘palpably fake’ yes, her strap-on.
What a nice can of worms Labour has opened just before the elections!
You mean the worms that infest the depths of Cooper Balls tube?
“Which one is more patriotic?”
As far as I can see neither are patriotic. Both are Self serving, tax dodging, power crazy, scumbags.
“They’re all as bad as each other”
Is this what Labour trolls are reduced to now?
the only troll here is you pretending that they aren’t thieving corrupt fucks
is that what tory trolls are reduced to now?
so stupid they can’t believe anyone would think Labour and the Conservaitves are both useless expenses thieving scum
you are in for a shock come the election
the public does not share your polyanna view of politicians
tat predicted a March election. What a knob.
That what his (Tat’s) boyfriend said – wot a (small) knob.
Hear hear.
And when undecided voters read this thread they will quickly realise what scum the Tory and Labour supporters are.
Neither party is interested in the national interest, they are only interested in gaining power so they can screw as much money out of the taxpayer as possible.
Fuck the lot of them
VOTE INDEPENDENT
I came to this conclusion along time ago after reading the demented rantings of Labour and Tory trolls, for the good of the nation both parties need to be booted out of parliament and start again with a clean state.
We are living in a society where two parties think they have the divine right to be in government, that is not a democracy and until we turn this country back into a democracy we will be doomed to follow the same catharsis.
Do not forget their mini me, wannabe`s, the utterly charmless and nasty Lib Dim`s. Offering the same shit as LabCon, in stereo.
my pile of shit is better than your pile of shit
no it isn’t
yes it is
your pile of shit costs more
no, your pile shit costs more
your pile of shit is corrupt
your pile of shit is even more corrupt
no it isn’t
yes it is
no it isn’t
yes it is…
…continued till May the 6th
idiots
Hear hear.
The Labour and Tory trolls bickering on this thread are self serving scum.
VOTE INDEPENDENT OR UKIP
KILL THE TWO PARTY MACHINE – IT IS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC
FUCK IT UP REAL GOOD – VOTE INDEPENDENT/UKIP
SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY FROM THE SCUM LABCON STITCH UP
and why do you think independent or UKIP will be saints? -the political classes are all the same. Thieves to a man. UKIP ain’t offering to clean up politics are they?
Party politics is like a cancer on democracy.
If the cancer is not cut out in time it will grow to such a size that it will kill the patient. That terminal stage is where we are with the Labour and Conservative parties.
Independents do not belong to a party and UKIP has not got enough seats to be sufficiently cancerous to be dangerous to democracy.
Try to think of a more difficult question next time that one was too easy.
The alternative may not be better than the two party cock up we have, just not so bad.
Why does everyone swear so much on these comments sections? Its only politics for fuck’s sake
Because we can?
Just fuck off or you’ll get a fucking Nokia in the back of your head.
What would happen if you hit him back – Prescott style, I wonder?
You where all warned, ‘you cannot trust an ethn*c’ look at them, Lord P, Baronness Uddin, Shady Malik, Baroness Scotland first class examples of imported third world corruption.
You can’t make a silk purse out of sows ear, that’s just the way it always has been and always will be with the savages no matter how many titles or suits you put them in.
It’s part of our culture innit?
‘Ello, ‘Ello, what has we got here then.
gutlessgordon is hoping his henchmen, whelan and balls, can keep this ashcroft rubbish going until the election. That way, he thinks no-one will have time to question him about labour’s disastrous record in office or to realise that he doesn’t have any policies to take into a new term.
Seen this Nell?
http://waugh.standard.co.uk/
Basically Ashcroft persuaded Clerk to the Crown in Chancery that his “permanent” residence pledge to William Hague would in practice be an “indefinite” and therefore “long term” residence.
A “permanent” resident cannot be a non-dom, but a “long term” resident can be a non-dom.
There you go!
Although I see mandy is still spinning – surpised he doesn’t make himself feel sick.
Everytime I see or hear mandy on the news the words ‘lying hypocrite’ in neon lights flash up before my eyes.
From Sky News:
A quadriplegic man has been seriously injured at an AC/DC concert after his friend hit the joystick of his motorised wheelchair, catapulting him into the mosh pit.
11 “No win no fee” lawyers were hurt in the rush to help him.
How opportunistic!!
Al-Beeba confirm plans to close some sections, losing 600 jobs.
NUJ say it is pre-emptive in case Tories win the election and then it will be much worse!
Be sympathetic, Vote Labour then!
WTF!
Shut all the lying political filth down!
If Liebour get back in we’ll just re-hire the 600 on higher salaries. They can keep their redundancy pay-offs. It’s only Taxpayers’ money.
“The Treasury dropped plans to increase tax on private equity just days before two of the industry’s richest tycoons made donations to Labour worth £1.25m.
In the run-up to last December’s budget statement, ministers ordered officials to draw up proposals to end the special low tax enjoyed by venture capitalists.
However, according to Treasury insiders, hostility to the plan from No 10 meant that the private equity sector escaped any tax rises.
The pre-budget report of the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, on December 9 also exempted private equity bosses from the bonus tax imposed on other highly paid City workers.
Nine days later on December 18, Nigel Doughty, the chairman of the private equity giant Doughty Hanson and owner of Nottingham Forest Football Club, who has an estimated fortune of £119m, gave £1m to Labour.
On December 23 the venture capitalist Sir Ronald Cohen, whose fortune is estimated at £220m, donated £250,000 to Labour.”
Terribel eh?
Sunday Times, 28 February, Main Section, top of page 13.
But why aren’t the Tories making these points….?
Because the Conservatives have chosen a Hoon to lead their Party
Cuпt.
Well yes. But do you want your billionaire party doners close to the political process or well away from it?
Just a straight answer please David Cameron
After further reporters’ questions about his knowledge of Lord Ashcroft’s tax status, Mr Cameron added: “I admire people who try to flog a dead horse. But the horse is dead and should no longer be flogged.”
Pressed further as to when he found out that Lord Ashcroft was non-domiciled for tax purposes, Mr Cameron said later: “I think I’ve answered that question in as clear a way as I can.”
He continued: “The questions people have been asking have now been answered. I know it’s disappointing for some that a major plank of the Labour campaign platform has disappeared and is no longer there for them, but that’s life.”
Is David Cameron doing his best to lose the Election for the Conservatives
Keep flogging that dead horse Gay boy, so the rest of us can get on with kicking that scum sucking pig out of No.10.
Dave just doesn’t want victory bad enough. All his life he hasn’t really had to try. His privileged position meant things, jobs, money, positions were just given to him on a silver plate and so he has never really had to work to earn anything because he was going to be given it anyway.
Dave just hasn’t got it in him to win. Too soft, too lazy. Dave’s got the cash, the houses, the cars. Why bother trying when you have it all?
He looks good and sounds good but he’s not a fighter. He never had to fight for anything.
Yeah whatever. Now go and do something useful and scrub those skidmarks out of your underpants.
Yeah whatever, now go and do something useful like boil your head.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
“This criticism about non-domicility is made only by ignorant people who refuse to study what non-domicility means,” fumes Swraj. “It is not a tax dodge. It is the most stupid criticism. It was just mischievous, a silly remark.”
His (perfectly valid) explanation is that as a person who was born abroad, he is legally entitled to have non-domicile status but is still liable to pay tax on all his UK earnings. Money earned abroad for work done from Britain is also taxable in Britain but money earned, say, in America or India for work done there is taxable only in America or India and not in Britain so long as the profits are not repatriated to the UK.
“All my income which is in Britain I pay tax on,” he assures me. “I pay very substantial tax every year.”
Swraj’s latest acquisition — a 250-acre Buckinghamshire estate — demonstrates that the 76-year-old steel tycoon is very much domiciled in Britain.
in the real world the public dont really care about this sort of thing.we all know money buys influence. the uk is TOTALLY CORRUPT!
with a lunatic dictator who thinks he is so intelligent! who announces that he is going to sell our gold causing the price to plummet-any kid would not have been so dumb!
in the election people will vote for their own selfish financial needs only!
if you work for the govt. you will vote for them.
if, like most of us,you hate the uk becoming like the old east germany then you will vote elsewhere.
most people have finally woken up to the fact that mps etc are only interested in feathering their own nest……….so it will be a vote for selfish reasons and to rebel- therefore the bnats will get a big vote but perhaps not too many seats.
But why aren’t the Tories making these points….?
Because the media haven’t asked them
Hello, my names Roy Hattersley. You might remember me from years ago when I was the dribbling, half witted sidekick who tried to make Neil Kinnock look good. Obviously I failed as I did at enything. Anyway, I’m Lord Hattersley now and, despite being utterly useless at anything I ever tried to do, I’m absolutely fucking loaded. Bet that makes all of those out there who are underpaid and good at their jobs feel much better.
I hope you are all happy for me.
Fuck off back to the care home you old duffer.
I read one of your books, ‘The Edwardians’. I only got half way through because it was so choc-a-bloc full of class hatred and rabid anti-royalist bile that I had to burn it.
How did an utterly useless, oxygen thief, likeHattersley, get his fortune?
Public Sector cutbacks,
BBC cutbacks,
Public Services cutbacks,
MOD cutbacks
NHS cutbacks
Ok, fair enough but!
when are we going to see numbers cutbacks…
say
35% less Quangos
35% less Lords
35% less MPs
When I see some pain at the top of the dung pile then perhaps I will get out of my chair on election night!
cameron in his speech, last weekend, promised to cut whitehall numbers by a third and to abolish Regional Development Agencies. It’s a start.
I’d like to see him split up the beeb and sell it off piecemeal. No doubt it’s wildlife and natural world programming sector could make a comfortable living in the real world. Likewise the Children’s programming section.
But the news and political section is valueless and needs to be binned – why would anyone want to buy into the biased unbalanced leftwing lies and spin that they spout everyday .
How do i get onto the Job Seekers Allowance these days?
Join the club.
Try an EU country if you have a passport and scrounge of their benefits, least the women will be better looking except maybe the hairy French women.
Germany and Holland pay the best unemployment money. If you choose Holland, you get the added bonus, of the natives all speaking English.
I hold 100% confidence in literally EVERYTHING that BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 and most of the newspapers tell me on a daily basis, since they all look such an honest, objective and politically independent group of affable women and men.
Based on what they keep on telling me all 24 hours of each and every day – the only choice for a voter with any sense at all is another 50 years of Labour, that the TV license fee must be doubled, preferably backdated to 1997, that immigration is the only means for Britian to become great again and that first-nationers need to interbreed pretty quickly or get sidelined into drinking cheap booze on iron bedsteads in the middle of the street, where they will eventually die of skin cancer.
I am also reliably informed that the world is getter warmer by the day, that we must try harder to borrow more to help the Third World (who must raise their carbon emissions), that people should all carry identity cards and European full political integration is obligatory and that higher taxes for ethnic Europeans are really the only way to save the planet.
It remains only to repeat that British Heritage people must voluntarily demote themselves to the back of any queue for health, housing, education, long-term care and public sector jobs since it is sinful to have been here for so long and left the place in such an orderly state.
Lord ASHCROFT (n.) audacious Peer who would direct a Government yet not pay for its Upkeep; thus a political LODGER
Oh fuck off, you daft old tart.
It’s time for your lithium Martin
Any evidence that McAvity has started a Jonahfest tour of the marginals? He was in Reading yesterday.
Thats them fucked in about 12 months time then….
You watch the likes of Microshaft, Oracle, HP, et al shut up shop and run for the hills back to California or to Brussels once the Nu Labia “Spend billions on pointless IT projects” gravy train hits the buffers….
Reading’ll go back to being a sleepy backwater with a crap one way system and a jail in the middle of it….
Oops! Lord Paul, aka Labour’s hostage to fortune!
Lord Paul ‘on message’ with his Indian hat on.
Notice his lack of greenery re: oil, coal and gas power stations.
A similar speech in the Lords would be handy
On the major problems facing the nation on the economic front, Lord Paul said,”first, there is the DEBT BURDEN which can be controlled by CURBING SPENDING by the national Government and especially the State Governments.
Highlighting the other essential things needed for India’s economic development, he said, ‘’there is a need to attract maximum private investment including foreign investment in the economy particularly in infrastructure — roads, ports, airports, railways and bridges-and energy-power, coal, oil, and gas. Finally India should move even more speedily along the path of PRIVITISATION, tax reforms and REDUCTION OF CORRUPTION” (UNI)
Ok you’ve made your point, now can these vicious attacks of yours on Ashcroft end?
Does anyone else tug their little man furiously until the slow sweaty release of all that pent up frustration comes out and dribbles down their leg?
Have we met darling?
Tory non-doms bad. Labour non-doms good!
And still the biased BBC refuse to give any reasonable coverage of that hideous, ugly man Lord (sounds like) Maul. Is he much different to that long dead bastard Maxwell?
Did the Lib-Dims ever pay the £2.4 million back that convicted fraudster Michael Brown channelled to them through 5th Avenue Partners?
David Cameron is my best secret weapon
Brown and Campbell can fuck off!
[...] Guido Fawkes blogs with evidence with two interesting posts: The Market Hates Labour providing a clear graph that when Labour rises in the polls the pound drops and the pound rises when the Tories rise in the polls. Guido also provides a snazzy graph to show how Lord Ashcroft’s attendances in the Lords cost the taxpayer NOTHING whereas Lord Paul’s attendances have cost us a WHOPPING £281,263 in expenses [...]
JUST WATCHED LORD MANDY “IM FREE” ON SKY FUCK ME THAT MAN MAKES MY FLESH CRAWL DID YOU NOT GET SACKED TWICE FOR BEING A CROOK THE FUCKING HYPOCRITE WHAT A LOW LIFE SUMS LIEBOUR UP PURE SCUM
Sod patriotism
String ‘em both up.
Fuck – I can smell curry !
I hate curry !